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Eddie DVK
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« Reply #420 on: January 09, 2015, 11:14:01 am »

Now the frame forks have been clearanced.  They seem a lot thinner than stock.  What do you think the chances of bending are?  I know you have seam welded them which will add some strength, but they just look fragile to me.

^^ this and why not just raise the trans like +/- 2cm... never see people do that on streetcars??? is that because of space problems.Huh
It lowers the tires neatly in the wings also.

Raising an IRS trans doesnt do anything to the tyres height, what is does do though is move the engine up the same amount creating several issues, shroud can hit decklid hinges, big carbs or throttle bodies hit decklid, engine tin doesnt seal round edges anymore, standard merged header hits rear apron

 
cheers Richie

Ok, already thought that was the reason for it. But had to ask.
Silly of me, forgot the Irs is double jointed, so does nothing for height.
Thanks.
Keep the pics comming.  Grin
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« Reply #421 on: January 09, 2015, 11:22:50 am »


Do they do raised torsion housing or just raised trans?

cheers Richie

They raise the torsion housing. I have plenty of pics if interested.

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Please do, but it wont gain any cv to frame fork clearance will it?

cheers Richie

^^ Me too  Grin
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« Reply #422 on: January 09, 2015, 18:41:43 pm »

Here we go then, the first car is from Turbo Town and the pictures are stolen from a Swedish forum;













I think it looks supercool;



This cool car is also from Sweden:

















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« Reply #423 on: January 09, 2015, 19:28:59 pm »

Thanks Kalle, lots of work going on their Smiley
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« Reply #424 on: January 09, 2015, 20:25:26 pm »

Seems like a lot of work to keep the frame forks. I understand why volkswagen had them, (to be able to fit the engine before the body) but people with cages don't need them.  Wink
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« Reply #425 on: January 10, 2015, 18:45:23 pm »

Got some progress today, had to do some repairs to the Napoleons hat as it was full of filler not metal!!! Need to do some to the bottom frame head plate last 30mm as well, its cut out but dont have a panel to do that so ordered one.

Didnt stop me getting the pan halves in though Smiley

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« Reply #426 on: January 10, 2015, 18:58:02 pm »

What paint finish have you got planned? Are you blasting before paint?
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« Reply #427 on: January 10, 2015, 19:26:54 pm »

What paint finish have you got planned? Are you blasting before paint?
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Some Grin n

ope blasting costs to much, just do what I can with it 

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« Reply #428 on: January 11, 2015, 15:44:44 pm »

Take it to Aberdeen and we can blast here, also I have a frame head base if required

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« Reply #429 on: January 11, 2015, 17:32:59 pm »

Take it to Aberdeen and we can blast here, also I have a frame head base if required

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« Reply #430 on: January 11, 2015, 17:39:27 pm »

Todays update, body is on pan, its only temporary as I will need to take it off again to finish stuff up but this will allow me to get the channels fitted etc and make the body strong again

Its quite tricky to get them together on your own but got it done, then moved onto engine stuff, trying to get it completed and run up so put it on my run stand, then got on with working on all the little stuff

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« Reply #431 on: January 11, 2015, 23:57:29 pm »

Looking good    Cool
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« Reply #432 on: January 12, 2015, 16:13:33 pm »

that shell looks better everytime I look at it.... why not do a full show job on it....
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« Reply #433 on: January 12, 2015, 17:27:24 pm »

Where did the CR land? Which cam did you go for? Settle on 5.4" rods?
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« Reply #434 on: January 12, 2015, 19:59:17 pm »

Where did the CR land? Which cam did you go for? Settle on 5.4" rods?

Hi Zach

10.5/1, yep 5.4 rods and fk47

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« Reply #435 on: January 12, 2015, 20:05:32 pm »

that shell looks better everytime I look at it.... why not do a full show job on it....

After cutting out one heater channel today and all the previous "repairs" on that side its pretty rough  Roll Eyes .but at least the roof doesnt need swapping!!!

And money, that and I want to be able to drive it anywhere and beat the hell out of it Shocked  Grin

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« Reply #436 on: January 12, 2015, 20:16:00 pm »

Thanks for the specs Smiley

I think you are on the right track with this, I can't imagine a cheaper/easier way to crack into the 10's than a stout street motor with a shot of gas. Curious to know how you will balance street/strip with the gear ratios though. A high 10 is about 125-ish mph? Seeing as that cam will pull to about 8500 or so, that means 3.875 and 1.21 fourth with the type one box?
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« Reply #437 on: January 12, 2015, 20:33:32 pm »

I wont be turning that rpm, no need with the gas as well, somewhere between 7600-7800rpm should do it, the gap between 1st and 2nd is the biggest hurdle, with the 4th gear i want to use it will be about 3800rpm at 65mph which I can live with

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« Reply #438 on: January 12, 2015, 21:29:25 pm »

Anyway todays update, one channel removed, it was 3 layers thick in places were it had been "repaired" in the past, shame they didnt remove the rusty old metal 1st though!!!

I started trimming everything back to good metal and got the channel in place and put the door back on, more tomorrow
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« Reply #439 on: January 12, 2015, 21:48:28 pm »

hey that looks familiar  Grin
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« Reply #440 on: January 12, 2015, 21:56:53 pm »

hey that looks familiar  Grin

I did see yours

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« Reply #441 on: January 12, 2015, 22:36:57 pm »

Good to see you're finally getting on with the body. Any longer and you would have probably been left with only the roof and dash  Cheesy

I got some spare L282 left too.
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« Reply #442 on: January 12, 2015, 23:37:31 pm »

Looking good Richie! I've cut one of the channels out of mine, it's a pain to do with the cage in the way!
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« Reply #443 on: January 13, 2015, 11:50:34 am »

hey that looks familiar  Grin

I did see yours

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mine is a 1300, but rust looks the same Tongue
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« Reply #444 on: January 13, 2015, 19:52:19 pm »



This cool car is also from Sweden:

















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Where can i find more i really like this car and this look , perfect for a future project , any links ?
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« Reply #445 on: January 14, 2015, 12:26:19 pm »

Where can i find more i really like this car and this look , perfect for a future project , any links ?

Sorry, no project link. The car was for sale amazingly cheap two years ago and I called to buy it. I got some pictures and was told that one guy called before me. The other guy bought it and he finished the car. I have since seen it race at SCC. It is a very cool car with attitude and a perfect look. Bad to the bone!

I also remember the Gemini Blue from Belgium and Rudy`s red 67.

Sorry Richie, back to topic.

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« Reply #446 on: January 14, 2015, 18:32:23 pm »

Coming along nice Richie!

That Swedish car is sweet. Very similar to how I'm doing my Notch.
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« Reply #447 on: January 15, 2015, 18:49:21 pm »

Trying to do a couple of hours a day to keep momentum going, needed some sheet steel to make the patch panels needed to put the channel in so while I am waiting for that I got on with some other things.

Built the front hubs up, the car came with a pair of CB drop spindles so using them, got some new discs in Porsche pattern and some braided hoses so put it all together, I also gave the trailing arms a good clean and some paint
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« Reply #448 on: January 15, 2015, 18:56:28 pm »

While I had the wire brush out I gave the beam a good clean, put the mount for the steering dampner in the correct place[ it had 2 welded to it before and both were wrong!!! and gave it a coat of black paint as well

Then I welded a -8 fitting on the fuel tank, and one on the filler neck for the vent, still need to add a -6 for the return but need to check it will clear everything where I want it to go so will need the beam etc in for that

Next onto some body repairs, I got these simple repair pieces from hookeys panels, save some messing around
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« Reply #449 on: January 15, 2015, 19:02:17 pm »

All 4 corners were rotted out from sitting under trees with perished window seals, 1st one welded in, needed to do a small repair on the dash as well were the rust had spread
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