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« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2008, 04:01:16 am »
Quote from: Jim Ratto on August 14, 2008, 19:50:17 pm
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Hey Jim Why did you put the (6 ) 12mm sealing Case nuts on backwards the red side goes toward the washer if your useing them that way mise well run Nylock nuts
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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2008, 16:15:12 pm »
Quote from: Shubee2 (DSK) on August 15, 2008, 04:01:16 am
Quote from: Jim Ratto on August 14, 2008, 19:50:17 pm
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Hey Jim Why did you put the (6 ) 12mm sealing Case nuts on backwards the red side goes toward the washer if your useing them that way mise well run Nylock nuts

Hey Shubee, if you put the red seal against the washer there is no way to know what torque you are applying to the 12mm studs. I use Loctite 574 under the 12mm washer, and to ensure proper torque, use moly lube on threads and on underside of nut. Gene Berg even said this "was the way to do it". The red seal stuff often comes apart on the threads when you unscrew them. Most nylocks are crap quality and I would never apply 30ft lb to them.
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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2008, 16:31:11 pm »
Quote from: Jim Ratto on August 15, 2008, 16:15:12 pm
Quote from: Shubee2 (DSK) on August 15, 2008, 04:01:16 am
Quote from: Jim Ratto on August 14, 2008, 19:50:17 pm
more pics, naked this time
Hey Jim Why did you put the (6 ) 12mm sealing Case nuts on backwards the red side goes toward the washer if your useing them that way mise well run Nylock nuts

Hey Shubee, if you put the red seal against the washer there is no way to know what torque you are applying to the 12mm studs. I use Loctite 574 under the 12mm washer, and to ensure proper torque, use moly lube on threads and on underside of nut. Gene Berg even said this "was the way to do it". The red seal stuff often comes apart on the threads when you unscrew them. Most nylocks are crap quality and I would never apply 30ft lb to them.

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Hi Jim, what sealant did you use under the cylinders. I use Dirko HT from Elring. (Red Stuff).
H.
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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2008, 16:35:48 pm »
Loctite 574, the "Porsche" stuff. Dirko is good too as is Curil T
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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2008, 16:40:32 pm »
Quote from: Jim Ratto on August 15, 2008, 16:35:48 pm
Loctite 574, the "Porsche" stuff. Dirko is good too as is Curil T

Just checked the boxes, Dirko and Curil are from the same company Elring. Curil T is a bitch to remove from case-halves,
but it makes a "dry" engine. Lately i'm using the Permatex aviation stuff for cases. Perfect results and easy to remove.

Ted, Just Admit It.
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« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2008, 16:42:04 pm »
Quote from: FDK/Hurry on August 15, 2008, 16:40:32 pm
Quote from: Jim Ratto on August 15, 2008, 16:35:48 pm
Loctite 574, the "Porsche" stuff. Dirko is good too as is Curil T

Just checked the boxes, Dirko and Curil are from the same company Elring. Curil T is a bitch to remove from case-halves,
but it makes a "dry" engine. Lately i'm using the Permatex aviation stuff for cases. Perfect results and easy to remove.

Ted, Just Admit It.

yeah Curil K2 is Elring too.... good stuff. Permatex 3H always worked too, but I can but the Elring stuff at work, no need to drive around looking for 3h.  Grin

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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2008, 16:46:30 pm »
I work in Germany .....  Wink

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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2008, 16:54:04 pm »
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I work in Germany .....  Wink

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keeps your nuts upside down dude,

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« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2008, 18:12:31 pm »
Jane Says...My nuts are always upside down.
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« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2008, 18:47:15 pm »
Jim, are the headstuds, ARPM nuts/washers sold as a kit from Raceware. Or Empi, or...?
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« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2008, 19:12:16 pm »
Quote from: FDK/Hurry on August 15, 2008, 18:47:15 pm
Jim, are the headstuds, ARPM nuts/washers sold as a kit from Raceware. Or Empi, or...?

Raceware. I bought kit (studs, washers, nuts) from Roger Crawford @ Heads Up.
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« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2008, 22:48:31 pm »
WELL??  Huh Huh Huh  Is it in yet??  How about now??  Is it???  Come on, we can't stand the suspense!! Grin
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« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2008, 23:10:59 pm »
Maybe he's at Kinkos.
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« Reply #43 on: August 17, 2008, 18:14:33 pm »
No, he's helping me out with my engine overhere (The Netherlands).
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« Reply #44 on: August 17, 2008, 20:55:04 pm »
I can drive to the Netherlands faster than to Simi Valley.
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« Reply #45 on: August 18, 2008, 16:15:06 pm »
boy you guys are fricking impatient!! Grin


Yeah it went in Thursday night, came to life Saturday afternoon.... no drips, no grey muck, no burps, hiccups. Drove it yesterday morning around the neighborhood and a short blast on freeway, and to work today. So far so good.
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« Reply #46 on: August 18, 2008, 16:29:59 pm »
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I can drive to the Netherlands faster than to Simi Valley.

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« Reply #47 on: August 18, 2008, 16:30:47 pm »
Good News Jim !
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« Reply #48 on: August 18, 2008, 17:01:01 pm »
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Good News Jim !

thanks Harry...... where's your heads?
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« Reply #49 on: August 18, 2008, 20:13:38 pm »
Heads are released from customs last Saturday nite, so another 3 days waiting...
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« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2008, 20:46:44 pm »
3 days?  Roll Eyes

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« Reply #51 on: August 18, 2008, 20:52:05 pm »
Quote from: Jim Ratto on August 18, 2008, 16:15:06 pm
...came to life Saturday afternoon...

Cool!  Is this a higher state of tune than previously?  I'm a little out of the loop...
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« Reply #52 on: August 18, 2008, 20:55:50 pm »
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Quote from: Jim Ratto on August 18, 2008, 16:15:06 pm
...came to life Saturday afternoon...

Cool!  Is this a higher state of tune than previously?  I'm a little out of the loop...

Hi Mike, yeah, in place of the Engle FK45 I have a Pauter R6E8 in it, a smidge more CR, and larger intake ports/runners. The R6E8 is 272 deg @ .050 and with Scat 1.25 it gives as much as .528" at valve.
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« Reply #53 on: August 18, 2008, 21:01:43 pm »
Nice...never enough, right?  This won't make it fussy, will it?
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« Reply #54 on: August 18, 2008, 21:15:24 pm »
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almost ready to go in car

It starts with the engine. You get it all prettied up and installed in the car. Then you will notice the car looks a bit worn next to the shiny engine and you will have the car torn apart for a repaint.  Grin

So how does it run. You get that Porsche power band you been looking for?

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« Reply #55 on: August 18, 2008, 21:54:06 pm »
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Quote from: Jim Ratto on August 12, 2008, 05:16:08 am
almost ready to go in car

It starts with the engine. You get it all prettied up and installed in the car. Then you will notice the car looks a bit worn next to the shiny engine and you will have the car torn apart for a repaint.  Grin

So how does it run. You get that Porsche power band you been looking for?

--louis
Grin

it runs the same down low, really... grunty, maybe not 100% as crisp off idle, but after 4000 it's definitely got a temper. I've been nice to it though....has about 40 mi on it.
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« Reply #56 on: August 19, 2008, 04:01:23 am »
Well, you can take it on a nice long hall to Fullerton in a couple of weeks!
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« Reply #57 on: August 19, 2008, 17:02:07 pm »
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Good News Jim !

thanks Harry...... where's your heads?



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« Reply #58 on: August 19, 2008, 18:36:20 pm »
cool..... hopefully Sheep's Sponge bob Square Ports heads will be at my place soon and his wierdo motor can go into his blue Bug.

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« Reply #59 on: August 19, 2008, 20:16:06 pm »
BTW Engine Stand, i raised mine welding  4mm  X 300 mm steel plates. Saves Back in the Future.
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