Cal Look Engine Combos and HP

[fish]

There seems to be a lot of scattered engine info around, so I thought we should have a Sticky about what engine combination and HP you guys are running?

CC and HP           1776 - 102HP                                  1679 - hoping for 120HP+

Crank                    69mm German balanced                    69mm German balanced

Rods                     stock  German balanced                     H beams stock length

P/B                       90.5 Mahle                                      88 Empi Biral

Cam                      W120 w/1.25:1                                FK45 w/1.4:1

Heads                   40x35 ported non welded                  42x37.5 ported welded pictured

C/R                       8.5:1                                              10:1

Ignition                 009/Accufire                                    MSD

Carbs                    48IDF                                             45Dells

Exhaust                 1-5/8 merged Fat boy                       1-7/8 stinger

Flywheel                200mm 12lb                                   200mm 10lb

Clutch                   Kennedy Stage  2                            4 puck                 3.88 box superdiff, HD side, welded 3+4, 1.12

[Rennsurfer]

Great idea for the thread. But I'll just sit on the sidelines and watch. Just running a single port 1600cc with dual Weber 34ICT carbs, .009, and an A-1 sidewinder exhaust/dynaflow muffler.

Hopefully, the new engine will resemble something like this:

CC and HP 1915cc/don't care how much h.p. it's never gonna be raced.
Crank 69mm forged German counter-weighted.
Rods Rimco Super Rods.
Chrome-Moly pushrods.
P/B Jelly?
Cam Don't know, yet. Probably an Engle 130
Heads .044 smoothed out and mildly opened up.
C/R Don't know... just want to run pump gas and race fuel blend.
Ignition Bosch blue coil, Bosch plug wires, and Bosch .010 distributor.
Carbs Weber 44mm IDF
Exhaust 1 5/8" A-1 sidewinder merged header, Dynoflow muffler, 1 5/8" flanged fresh air heater boxes.
Flywheel 8 doweled and slightly lightened... not too much.
Clutch Kennedy 1,700lb diaphram

Transmission will have the tallest fourth gear that I can find, welded synchros, h.d. side plates, and a Super-Diff. Nothing too fancy. Just a little more stout than stock.

[fish]

Hey Fred, how does the 1600 SP run with the 34ICTs, was thinking of using them with these heads

[Rennsurfer]

Hey Fred, how does the 1600 SP run with the 34ICTs, was thinking of using them with these heads

I was skeptical, at first. Because I've always been a firm believer in Kadrons for single throat carbs. But after much frustration from trying to find single port Kadron manifolds, I gave up. Hard to believe that we used to throw those things in the trash in the '80s. Now, people want big bucks for 'em. HAHA!! So my friend, Chris, found out that I wanted some small carbs. He sold me this brand new set for $200. I was STOKED! They were jetted for a Type 3 s.p. engine, so I left that alone. Painted the manifolds gloss gray, painted everything else flat black, had my friend, John, adjust 'em for me. (it was way too many years away from air-cooled engines, last year) I'm very happy with the 34 ICT carbs. Mileage same as stock, long as my foot's not in it. Great performance for a stock engine, too. I can easily peg the speedometer and they stay in tune nicely, as well.

I never thought I'd ever get a set of these. I highly recommend them for small or stock engines.

[lawrence]

Cool idea for a thread.

1914, 140 flywheel hp @ 7k: counterweighted german crank, 12lb chromoly flywheel, kennedy stage 1, kushlock disc, scat i-beam rods with arp bolts, 94mm mahle pistons, Webcam 86b with webcam lifters. 044 heads 40x35.5 valves D intake ports no welding, 48 IDAs with tall manifolds, CB Performance 1.4 rockers, chromoly pushrods, 8.3:1 compression ratio, mallory ignition system, 1 5/8s sidewinder header and magnaflow. Runs hard!

[fish]

I bet, with 140 ponies to help.......

[Jim Ratto]

current engines, either in my car, on the stand and in the parts cabinet

mine:
94mm x 78mm
Rimco VW rods
Pauter R6E8 cam w/ Scat 1.25 rockers (272' @ .050 x .528" @ valve), adv 4 deg
CB 044 castings intially ported by yours truly in 2003-04 as copies of Berg 871 heads 44 x 37, finished by Clyde Berg
44 x 37mm
9.7:1
Weber 48's on Scat talls, 40mm vents, 91 octane
MSD locked dist, Bosch X5DC's
1.75" header

no idea on HP but it's reliable and fast enough to be scary

on the stand:

88mm x 74mm, Crown 6lb flywheel
VW rods
2238 cam w/ Scat 1.4 (274' x .511")
VW 1600 single port, lightly contoured, chambers opened to bore diam, stock valves
8.4:1
stock Solex 30PICT
Bosch 010, blue 6V coil
4-into-1 header w/ glasspack

in the parts cabinet

94mm x 84mm Bugpack 912 journal
5.600 Bugpack "1991" rods, narrowed
Clay Smith steel billet cam "320" Scat 1.4's
CB 044 ultra wedge port
11.0:1
Weber 48's, 44mm vents
Mallory mag, locked
1.75" stainless sidewinder

my heads:

[Jim Ratto]

P/B Jelly?

Carbs Weber 44mm IDF
Clutch Kennedy 1,700lb diaphram

Transmission will have the tallest fourth gear that I can find, welded synchros, h.d. side plates, and a Super-Diff. Nothing too fancy. Just a little more stout than stock.

Hey mark you might re think the PB and Jelly... I heard it makes those KEP's chatter.

[Bewitched666]

1904cc engine
74mm cw crank
5.4 h-beams
engle k8 cam
straight cuts
cb heads ported and polished 42x37mm mini wedge ports
45 dells or 48 idas (cant decide yet)
1.4 rockers
90.5 pistons
1 3/4 headers
9.5 cr
msd 6 AL and msd coil

No idea on the HP out put as i'm still building,

[Rennsurfer]

Hey mark you might re think the PB and Jelly... I heard it makes those KEP's chatter.

Great! I typed "jelly" because I had no idea what P/B stands for. Now, you're confusing even further. What the heck are KEPs?

 

[Homer's voice]Ohh, there's SO much I don't know.[/Homer's voice]

[Zach Gomulka]

KEP= Kennedy Engineered Products (or something to that effect), aka your clutch

[stealth67vw]

CC and HP    2165cc 78 x 94, hp I'm hoping for 175+hp or enough to scare me 

Crank            Bugpack forged, nitrided 78mm VW journal, 8 doweled   
           
Rods             CB 5.500" H beams ARP 2000 5/16 bolts     
 
P/B               Mahle 94 "B" CB tool steel wrist pins. Teflon buttons     
   
Cam              Engle FK-45 (263*@.050 x .566" valve lift, dialed in straight up, Berg/Magnum straight cuts, Weizmann coated lifters

Rockers        CB 1.4:1, Berg 90,000 pushrods 10.810" long

Heads           CB 044s by Heads Up Performance, 42 x 37.5, stainless valves, Bugpack 4046 dual springs set up .080" to bind, Ti retainers 
 
C/R               94 bore x 57cc chambers x .043 deck height = 9.4:1 static or 7.00:1 dynamic
 
Ignition         Bosch 010 w/Pertronix, MSD 6AL box, MSD Blaster 2 coil, Taylor .409 wires, NGK D6EA plugs   
     
Carbs           48 IDAs, 40mm vents, tall Scat Traks, Berg linkage 
     
Exhaust        Berg 1 3/4" heater box exhaust w/ A1 polished stainless 2 1/2" Renn Kafer muffler     
   
Flywheel       Bugpack 13lbs, 8 doweled, Bugpack 36mm gland nut 
     
Clutch           Kennedy Stage 2, Daikin disc.       

Oil System    Berg 30mm plugged pump, Berg std. cover, Berg 4 qt. sump, Napa Gold 1515 filter, Valvoline VR1 10w 30 oil

My heads (Ratto's old head)

[stealth67vw]

Hey mark you might re think the PB and Jelly... I heard it makes those KEP's chatter.

Great! I typed "jelly" because I had no idea what P/B stands for. Now, you're confusing even further. What the heck are KEPs?

 

[Homer's voice]Ohh, there's SO much I don't know.[/Homer's voice]

P/B = pistons and barrels.

[Rennsurfer]

Oh WOW! Can't believe I didn't get either of those... thanks, guys. I feel a little more slightly stoopeed than usual.

 

Please carry on. This will, hopefully, shape up to become a pretty cool thread.

[Jason Foster]

CC and HP  2386cc 174rwhp and 160ftlb through a beat up old stock '67 trans on the chassis dyno once.
                 I figure it's gotta be good for a couple ticks over 200hp at the flywheel.

Crank         Demello 86mm german welded

Rods          Demello 5.4 H beams (eagle)

P/B            Mahle 94's Mahle wrist pins teflon buttons

Cam           Engle FK10 stroker clearanced and picked up from engle on 6/6/06

Heads        CB wedgeports reworked by Clyde Berg  53cc chambers

Rockers      Scat 1.4   chromolly push rods  AJ sims lifters

C/R           11.0 to 1    (Mark it sucks having to mix fuel)

Ignition      MSD 6Al, Blaster 2 coil, Dsit. and wires     NGK D6EA plugs

Carbs         Italian 48 IDA's 42 vents CB talls match ported by Clyde. Berg linkage

Exhaust     Bugpack 1 3/4 slip joints welded J tubes flanged ceramic coated Flowmaster single chamber muffler ( aka soup can)

Flywheel    Demello 12.5 lb

Clutch       Kennedy stage 1 daiken disc

Oil pump   Berg 26mm  Berg pump cover

Sump       Berg 3 1/2 QT.

Pulleys      Saco

[fish]

CC and HP  2386cc 174rwhp and 160ftlb through a beat up old stock '67 trans on the chassis dyno once.
                 I figure it's gotta be good for a couple ticks over 200hp at the flywheel.

Crank         Demello 86mm german welded

Rods          Demello 5.4 H beams (eagle)

P/B            Mahle 94's Mahle wrist pins teflon buttons

Cam           Engle FK10 stroker clearanced and picked up from engle on 6/6/06

Heads        CB wedgeports reworked by Clyde Berg  53cc chambers

Rockers      Scat 1.4   chromolly push rods  AJ sims lifters

C/R           11.0 to 1    (Mark it sucks having to mix fuel)

Ignition      MSD 6Al, Blaster 2 coil, Dsit. and wires     NGK D6EA plugs

Carbs         Italian 48 IDA's 42 vents CB talls match ported by Clyde. Berg linkage

Exhaust     Bugpack 1 3/4 slip joints welded J tubes flanged ceramic coated Flowmaster single chamber muffler ( aka soup can)

Flywheel    Demello 12.5 lb

Clutch       Kennedy stage 1 daiken disc

Oil pump   Berg 26mm  Berg pump cover

Sump       Berg 3 1/2 QT.

Pulleys      Saco

Must be Hell of a cam Jason.

[fish]

Where's the rest of ya fellas? 

[jamiep_jamiep]

CC and HP     2276 82 x 94, Dyno'd (on a chassis dyno) at 136bhp at the wheels, figuring on a 15% transmission loss (is that about right?) 156 at the flywheel.

Crank            CB 82mm forged VW journal, 8 doweled   
           
Rods             CB 5.6" H beams
 
P/B               Mahle 94 "B"  Teflon buttons     
   
Cam              Webcam 86B/Magnum straight cuts

Rockers        CB 1.4:1,

Heads           CB 044s round ports, 42 x 37.5, stainless valves
 
C/R               9.5:1
 
Ignition         Treuhaft/Mallory 010 w/Pertronix, Mallory VI AL box,
     
Carbs           45 dells, unkown setup
     
Exhaust        Speedshop 3/4" exhaust w/ Speedshop polished stainless turbo muffler     
     
Oil System    Berg 30mm plugged pump, Berg pressure relief. cover, CB deep sump sump, Fram HP1 filter, Valvoline 15 40 Oil


Its currently being rebuilt and has 86C, IDA's and the heads have been redone by Kraftwerk VW, same valve sizes but ported, and the CR is now 10.8:1.

[glennc]

 berg 86mm crank
carillo 5.7 rods
fk 89
berg straight cut cam gear
berg followers
jayee barrels
wiseco pistons
comp eliminators
italian 52 ida's
pauter rockers 1.4
10.1 cr
al7 msd
berg 4 puarts deep sump
other bits are mainly berg

[Shubee2 (DSK)]

Motor for my 58 RagTop

CC and HP  2332cc  237hp at the flywheel. @6800

Crank         Scat 84mm  Chevy Rod

Rods          CB 5.7 H beams

P/B            Wiseco 94's  with Jaycee Long Barrels and Pins

Cam           Engle FK-46 on a 110 lobe center stroker clearanced and Steel Magnum Straight Cuts

Heads        CB CNC wedgeports 44x37 reworked by Steve Tims

Rockers      EMPI 1.4   chromolly push rods  German VW lifters

C/R           11.5 to 1   

Ignition      Locked Joe Hunt Magneto with Jaycee Mag Clamp

Carbs         Italian 48 IDA's 44 vents CB tall manifolds match ported by Steve Tims, Empi linkage

Exhaust     Berg 1 3/4 Merge with A1 Muffler

Flywheel    Wedgemated 12 lb

Clutch       Kennedy stage 2  4 Puck disc

Oil pump   Berg 26mm  Berg pump cover

Sump       Berg 4 QT.

Pulleys      Berg BRM Pulley Set

Trans       Old School Non Freeway LOL   ( 4:37 R/P H/D mainshaft,1:58 3rd, 1:32 4 th)

[Zach Gomulka]

125k mile original 1600 dual port . They were rated at 60hp, but a fresh stocker dyno's at a true 48hp or so. I've got a Zenith 32NDIX with 25mm vents, Bosch 010 w/Pertronix, header with S&S glasspack, and 30mm oil pump. It's tuned within an inch of it's life, with as much advance and the leanest jets it will take. I figure it's making 55-60 honest horsepower

[Sam K]

Here are the specs for the engine in my '67

2332cc's, never had it on a Dyno. The compression was 10.5 to 1 but I grew tired of running race fuel so I just lowered it to 9.5.

Crank - Demello 84mm chevy journal crank wdgemated to a 12.5 lb flywheel

Rods - Eagle 5.5in forged h-beam rons w/ARP bolts

P&L's - 94mm cima/mahle

Cam and valvetrain  - Webcam .498 lift and 312 degrees duration, magnum straight cut gears stock rockers with solid shafts with swivel feet and chromoly pushrods

Heads - Jeff Denham ported 044s', 44x37mm valves, dual springs, titanium retainers, hardened keepers

Fuel system - 48 IDA's on CB tall manifolds, 37mm venturis, Berg linkage, Holley red pump and regulator, -8 stainless line from tank to regulator, -6 from reglator to carbs

Exhaust - Pheonix 1 3/4 merged system with 2.5 in magnaflow muffler from A-1

Ignition - German 009 with a pertronix ignitor that I bought in 1995 or so, 7800 rpm rev limiting rotor Blue coil, MSD wires, NGK spark plugs

Oiling system - Schadek 30mm oil pump, full flowed with Berg pump cover, Fram HP1 oil fliter, external cooler with thermostatically controlled fan, -8 hose and AN fittings
 
Clutch - KEP stage 2, stock solid center disc.

Other stuff - Berg breather box, equalizer pulley, Thing fanshroud & all german tin (except for the breastplate) is powdercoated gloss black

[DKK Ted]

Motor in car now...

CC          2303cc

HP          ?

Crank      Demello 83mm

Rods       Eagle 5.5-clearanced and lighten by Berg (Mark V.)

P/L         94mm Mahle's

Cam        Engle 120-clearanced by Berg

Rockers   1.25 modified by Berg

Cam Gear Magnum Straight Cut"s

Oil Pump  26mm Berg

Sump      Berg 3/12 qt.

Pully        Berg Equalizer (stock size)

Heads      Jeff Deham 42X37

Carbs       48 IDA's (Italians) W/CB early tall manifolds

Ignition    Bosch 010

Exhaust    A1 1 3/4 Low Down W/stainless muffler


Motor in process....

CC           2303cc

Crank       DPR 83mm Chevy Jounals, 411 center main, wedgemated to a 14lb. flywheel. Was going to use an 86mm but changed my mind.... (again)

Rods        Berg Jet Rods 5.5 W/Chevy Jounals

Barrels      JC's 94mm Long Barrels

Pistons     Wisco's 94mm W/JC buttons

Cam         WebCam 86c clearanced by Berg

Cam Gear  Magnum Straight Cuts

Rockers     Berg 1.45's

Oil Pump   Berg 26mm

Oil Sump   Berg 3 1/2qt.

Pully         Berg Equalizer

Carbs        48 IDA's (Spanish) modified by Berg on Skat Trak manifolds

Exhaust    A1 Low Down 1 3/4 header W/stainless muffler

Ignition     MSD Distributor W/MSD 6AL Box

Heads       STILL IN PROCESS

CR            9.5:1

Can't wait to get this motor in, but looks like later in summer. It's the head thing. (WAITING)

[fish]

 really thought there'd be more than this

[TexasTom]

Here's my current setup, though it's fixing to change like many of you ...

2276cc never on the dyno, low compression now but plan to raise it up just to see the differences possible...

Crank: Okrasa 82mm, porsche journals, Berg Equalizer
Rods: Carrillo 5.352
Cam: Web 86C with Berg 1.46:1 rockers (prefer my FK87)
Heads: Fumio welded and ported 42X37 with 53cc chambers
Compression: 8.7:1
Carbs: Italian 48IDAs on tall Scat Tracks with 40mm vents
Ignition: Vertex Mag, usually run 32 deg total
Exhaust: 1.75" Berg header into 2.5" magnaflo
Oil: 26mm pump with Berg cover, T4 cooler in Scat 36hp shroud
Trans: Berg 5 speed 3.88 r&p, 4.11, 2.47, 1.65, 1.21, .95

Fun on the street and still can blow down the highway at 75 mph without thinking about heat problems!
Best ever time was 12.77 on DOTs and thru the muffler.

[richie]

I dont think I have ever built a Cal look engine so cant really help with this   cheers richie

[Diederick/DVK]

you're joking, how you never built a fast non-turbo type 1 engine?  

how come there's only a few sub-2 litre engine posted in this thread?
are the owners a bit shy about their HP numbers? i liked to see a few more just for the sake of comparison...

[Shubee2 (DSK)]

Motor for my 67 Sedan

CC and HP 1914CC 168 HP @ Flywheel @ 7000

Crank         Berg 69mm counterweighted

Rods          Berg Reworked VW I beam

P/B            94's Mahle Pistons & Barrel's

Cam           Engle W-140 and Steel Magnum Straight Cuts

Heads        Steve Tims 42X37 Stage 2 with Match Ported Scat DW-2 Short IDA Manifolds

Rockers      1.1 VW,  chromolly push rods  German VW lifters

C/R           10 to 1   

Ignition      Bosch 010 Dist. (Reworked advance springs and weights)

Carbs         Italian 48 IDA's 42 vents Deano linkage

Exhaust     Berg 1 5/8 Merge with A1 Muffler

Flywheel    12 lb 11/32  8 Doweled

Clutch       Kennedy stage 1 Daken Ridged Disc

Oil pump   Berg 26mm  Berg pump cover

Sump       Berg 1 1/2 Qt

Pulleys      NOS Santana Stock size

Trans       Old School Non Freeway LOL   ( 4:37 R/P H/D mainshaft,1:58 3rd, 1:32 4 th)

[richie]

you're joking, how you never built a fast non-turbo type 1 engine?  

how come there's only a few sub-2 litre engine posted in this thread?
are the owners a bit shy about their HP numbers? i liked to see a few more just for the sake of comparison...

Always seem to have chrome on them somewhere  
Anyway going on the figures Shubee has posted nothing I could do would ever come close to them

cheers richie,uk

[TexasTom]

Trans       Old School Non Freeway LOL   ( 4:37 R/P H/D mainshaft,1:58 3rd, 1:32 4 th)
[/quote]

Shoob-

Remind me never to go on any roadtrips with you if you're driving this car/trans!
Top highway speed ... 45-50??
LOL!!!