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speedwell
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good start ???
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July 30, 2009, 18:28:59 pm »
one day i will build a bigger engine for the 61 or another project who know
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not a 2332cc , but more an 1776cc ,1835cc or 2007cc with my 48ida (i've since 99 now)
here's a vw case i've now for 15 years old , this one was in my daily driver at the beginning ,it's a 1200cc but the case is an AS41 , can i made a bigger dispalcement with this one
thx for your advice here's some picture of this one
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speedwell
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July 30, 2009, 18:31:49 pm »
crankshaft line
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speedwell
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July 30, 2009, 18:32:26 pm »
camshaft
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Zach Gomulka
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Re: good start ???
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July 30, 2009, 19:00:49 pm »
Looks like a good start to me, but I don't know if there were any differences from a 1200-1600 AS41 other than the displacement. It's dual pressure relief and it's got the insert for upper engine trans bolt by #3, so those are good signs in my book. Good luck with the build!!
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Jesse/DVK
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July 30, 2009, 19:02:19 pm »
Yes these are the same. So with dual relief and bigger channels. Good luck!
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Re: good start ???
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July 30, 2009, 19:10:30 pm »
you know this is what you want to build fabs:
2017cc (TONY MANCE 78.4 mm x CIMA 90.5 mm)
- REMANUF. VW RODS
- ENGLE 125 (300/.405 @ CAM)
- OEM VW HEADS, 40 x 35.5, BY FUMIO FUKAYA
- 9.0:1 CR ; 91 OCTANE
- 48 IDA WEBERS ; BUGPACK MANIFOLDS
- BOSCH 009 DISTRIBUTOR W/ COMPUFIRE ; BOSCH BLUE COIL
- A-1 1-5/8" HEADER ; MAGNAFLOW MUFFLER BY A-1 MUFFLER
- PORSCHE 912 OIL COOLER
probably with an 010 and dual QPs though
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speedwell
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July 30, 2009, 19:12:47 pm »
why not died , but i want short manifold like the racetrim or dds one
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dirk zeyen
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Re: good start ???
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July 30, 2009, 20:14:08 pm »
hi fabs,
a 2007cc engine is a great daily driver with a lot of fun.
hot VWs 2/95 and 4/95 they build one 160Hp without fanbelt and with stinger at 6000rpm and 145Hp with fanbelt and duals!!!
why not start with a new case, you never know how long a old case will stay!!!
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j-f
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Jean-François
Re: good start ???
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July 30, 2009, 21:28:52 pm »
Build a 1915. More fun per dollar.
And with the money you save on a stroker crank and rods, buy a good set of heads.
1915cc, FK8 + 1.4 rockers,DPR crank, HD stock rods, reworked 043 heads 40*35.5mm, ~9.0 CR; 1.5/8 header etc etc...
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Lids
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July 30, 2009, 22:13:34 pm »
my 1914 has a used case, it doesn't see 8000rpm so no real probs, the most its seen is 6k. Just make sure its checked.
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July 30, 2009, 22:21:26 pm »
92x74 (1968cc) would be different. Lot's of those built back in the day
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speedwell
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July 31, 2009, 18:07:33 pm »
another question for the pulley i would li!ke to go with a santana or similar model (i want a late 70's look) , can i go with a sand sealed or normal pulley
and size for a oil pump , i will go with a full flow and hp1 oil filter
thx for your advice
fabs
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JS
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July 31, 2009, 19:57:09 pm »
I´d go for a standard type pulley and a normal 26mm oil pump.
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nicolas
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August 01, 2009, 06:22:05 am »
i happen to have a 78 crank, lightened flywheel, berg pulley and crown pressureplate...
so why not make a 78x88 or 78x90.5 together with a w130 and some 40x35 heads?
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SlingShot
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Re: good start ???
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August 01, 2009, 14:36:51 pm »
Quote from: speedwell on July 31, 2009, 18:07:33 pm
another question for the pulley i would li!ke to go with a santana or similar model (i want a late 70's look) , can i go with a sand sealed or normal pulley
and size for a oil pump , i will go with a full flow and hp1 oil filter
thx for your advice
fabs
Sand Seal, unless you enjoy a dirty engine
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speedwell
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August 01, 2009, 15:04:58 pm »
Quote from: SlingShot on August 01, 2009, 14:36:51 pm
Quote from: speedwell on July 31, 2009, 18:07:33 pm
another question for the pulley i would li!ke to go with a santana or similar model (i want a late 70's look) , can i go with a sand sealed or normal pulley
and size for a oil pump , i will go with a full flow and hp1 oil filter
thx for your advice
fabs
Sand Seal, unless you enjoy a dirty engine
ok thx for the advice chris
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speedwell
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August 01, 2009, 17:25:53 pm »
some old parts i've to put on the engine
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Lids
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Re: good start ???
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August 01, 2009, 17:57:44 pm »
christ fabs that thing will never work, paper towel and boxes, you must be smoking some good stuff. YOu really need some cylinder heads!
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speedwell
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August 01, 2009, 18:54:25 pm »
Quote from: lids_2001 on August 01, 2009, 17:57:44 pm
christ fabs that thing will never work, paper towel and boxes, you must be smoking some good stuff. YOu really need some cylinder heads!
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Liou
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Re: good start ???
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August 02, 2009, 18:33:32 pm »
it's cool linkage gene berg vintage and good luck
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Frank LUX
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Re: good start ???
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August 03, 2009, 11:54:13 am »
You will want to use an Magneto and an Oberg 600 Oil Filter for the correct Period Looks...
Good Luck, hope this Motor will happen one day...!!!
Frank
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speedwell
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Re: good start ???
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September 24, 2009, 12:56:55 pm »
today i've take my 1600cc in the other garage just to have a look with the 48 & manifold
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speedwell
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Re: good start ???
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September 24, 2009, 13:16:15 pm »
with that kind of fan shroud , the 48 touch the fanhousing is normal
, i will use the 30 hp fan housing , and as it's describe in another tread to modify this one , and also the sheet steels cylinder , will be modify too, where the manifold goes on the heads
may be you can give me some advice for other parts to be modify for the future build
thx
fabs
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Ole
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Re: good start ???
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September 24, 2009, 20:30:42 pm »
Hi Fabs,
looking good so far. You will NEED to use a magneto on this!!!
Saludos,
Ole
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speedwell
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December 06, 2009, 23:07:31 pm »
Quote from: Zach Gomulka on July 30, 2009, 22:21:26 pm
92x74 (1968cc) would be different. Lot's of those built back in the day
yes thinking about that displacement , what do you think about the NPR /deano 92mm kit , i've just buy an NOS set of those one
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Eddie DVK
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Re: good start ???
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Reply #25 on:
December 06, 2009, 23:48:12 pm »
Cool buy fabian, saw those on thesamba a few days back....
Good luck with the built.
Kind Regards Edgar
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vwcab
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Re: good start ???
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Reply #26 on:
December 07, 2009, 11:18:03 am »
Lookin' good dude,go for it!!(I had these on my 1835 in the 80's)
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63 ripper
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Re: good start ???
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December 07, 2009, 11:44:51 am »
Quote from: speedwell on September 24, 2009, 13:16:15 pm
with that kind of fan shroud , the 48 touch the fanhousing is normal
, i will use the 30 hp fan housing , and as it's describe in another tread to modify this one , and also the sheet steels cylinder , will be modify too, where the manifold goes on the heads
thx
fabs
Hi Fabs. it looks like your short manifolds are causing the carbs to touch the fanshroud. if you keep your carbs the way they are facing then i think it will be a real pain to set the mixture screws at the back. but it looks from the photos that if you reverse the carbs then the float bowl and fuel banjo will get in the way....the 30 hp shroud does give you a lot more room....
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xavier
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Re: good start ???
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Reply #28 on:
December 07, 2009, 13:17:30 pm »
You know...I carefully checked the pictures again and it will definitely looks better with a NOS Race Trim linkage to go with your manifolds...
To help you fund this next purchase I am offering to help you by buying your old Berg linkage
Please Please sell it to me sell it to me I want it I want it
Xavier
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Nostalgiavw67
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Re: good start ???
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December 07, 2009, 14:00:09 pm »
Quote from: speedwell on December 06, 2009, 23:07:31 pm
Quote from: Zach Gomulka on July 30, 2009, 22:21:26 pm
92x74 (1968cc) would be different. Lot's of those built back in the day
yes thinking about that displacement , what do you think about the NPR /deano 92mm kit , i've just buy an NOS set of those one
Good choice ;-)
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