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« Reply #330 on: December 10, 2009, 17:30:41 pm »

Whoa... what is that?! Very cool!!
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« Reply #331 on: December 10, 2009, 22:29:40 pm »

Hand built racing car for a 1950 Great German Trophy. I suppose these are 16" VW wheels.
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« Reply #332 on: December 10, 2009, 23:46:13 pm »

You're right... very cool!
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« Reply #333 on: December 31, 2009, 17:23:31 pm »

at least none of us have gone this far.... yet

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« Reply #334 on: January 01, 2010, 01:19:09 am »

A preview of my new racecar, still some metal to remove     Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #335 on: January 09, 2010, 02:29:05 am »

Remove over 6 lbs from engine parts. Over 1lb. [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] just from the rods!
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« Reply #336 on: January 09, 2010, 02:35:28 am »

more pics, champhered 1600 wrist pins, moved keepers in, 94mm dished 10cc pistons over an ounce per piston [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ] [ Attachment: You are not allowed to view attachments ]
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« Reply #337 on: January 09, 2010, 18:46:28 pm »

I love the rods, but are you sure they aren't going to break at hig rpm? I assume you are going to chamfer the holes on the rods to avoid stress risers which will lead to cracks? Great addition to the thread! keep the pix coming Cool
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« Reply #338 on: January 09, 2010, 21:02:45 pm »

Hi the  stres on the rod is going thru the shoulder of the rod the rest is just fill up material lightning the rod like this make it do his job so good as posible  just push the force from the combustion on the crank and when it comes up it wil not take as much weight with it les mass
so ill think it wil be stronger in a combo that suits it

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« Reply #339 on: January 09, 2010, 23:45:26 pm »

It's about time you showed up here, Mark. Smiley
Are those stock VW rods?  What does each rod weigh?
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« Reply #340 on: January 09, 2010, 23:53:29 pm »

 The stock rods are 470 grams total, I have run the rods at over 6000 RPM on an 82 stroke and then REVVED IT!
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« Reply #341 on: April 24, 2010, 23:05:44 pm »

So I was thinking about how I could reduce the rotating mass on my Erco's.I wanted to use the tapered washers that my wheels came with so that ruled out using 14mm Porsche alloy radius lugnuts, so I found some 12mm tapered alloy lugnuts.

Not a huge saving I know (800g less than the lugnuts the wheels came with) but every little counts. Wink
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« Reply #342 on: April 24, 2010, 23:10:51 pm »

Now an even smaller (who said pathetic) saving,swapped rubber wheel valves for alloy ones,a massive 28g saving. Shocked

Not using dust caps waaaaaaay too heavy Cheesy
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« Reply #343 on: April 25, 2010, 01:46:04 am »

It's all worthwhile.
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« Reply #344 on: April 25, 2010, 01:57:08 am »

Now that's drawing the line ... you guys are SICK.
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« Reply #345 on: May 08, 2010, 13:13:28 pm »

hollow trans plugs came in at 20g
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« Reply #346 on: May 12, 2010, 08:02:41 am »

Stock: 168g
Drilled: 114g 
= 32% less
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« Reply #347 on: May 12, 2010, 10:08:38 am »

This has to be my favourite thread ever Cool
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« Reply #348 on: May 23, 2010, 04:28:41 am »

Some good stuff here!! Shocked

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_search.php?search_author=Steve+Hogue
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« Reply #349 on: May 25, 2010, 21:54:09 pm »


WOW  Shocked

Impressive stuff,love the drilled rear torsion bar tubes and swing arms.
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« Reply #350 on: May 25, 2010, 22:19:07 pm »

I like the air ducts to the drums , nice  Cool
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« Reply #351 on: May 26, 2010, 08:12:31 am »

Stock 3-4 shift rod = 130g
Hollow 3-4 shift rod = 93g
Difference = 28%
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« Reply #352 on: May 26, 2010, 08:16:11 am »

Frame horn bolts : 262g/pr.
modified : 204g/pr
22% less.

Pulley bolt : 99g, modified : 69g
30% less.
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« Reply #353 on: May 26, 2010, 08:36:14 am »

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« Reply #354 on: May 26, 2010, 13:15:35 pm »

Bruce,

Love all the holes! Is anything safe from the driller killer?

What is all this stuff going on/in?

Keep up the good work as it brightens up my day when I see such ridiculous behavior.

Peter
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« Reply #355 on: May 27, 2010, 06:54:22 am »

..... it brightens up my day when I see such ridiculous behavior.
Join in!

I think Phil said it earlier, VW over-designed a lot of the parts, so most parts can be lightened.

My short term goal is to be able to build all these light bits into a Berg 5 and have the result weigh less than a stock 4 speed.

3-4 fork (bottom) 135 to 106g = 27%
5th fork (top) 117 to 92 = 21%
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« Reply #356 on: May 27, 2010, 07:32:26 am »

lots of holes Cheesy. how much kg will You save totall with this drilling? 50kg?.
Good for me that I don't have to driil anything Cheesy cuz I save 50kg in total weight of the car + driver in really  easy way. I weigh 55kg Smiley so comparing to guys that weigh 80-90kg Smiley thats easy way to lighten weigh. BTW I'm not on the diet or have some kinda diesies Cheesy

But I like this thread. Any one made some tests with for example with drilled rods? they look really weak wht RPM's they'll survive?

cheers
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« Reply #357 on: May 27, 2010, 10:10:05 am »

..... it brightens up my day when I see such ridiculous behavior.
Join in!

I think Phil said it earlier, VW over-designed a lot of the parts, so most parts can be lightened.

My short term goal is to be able to build all these light bits into a Berg 5 and have the result weigh less than a stock 4 speed.

3-4 fork (bottom) 135 to 106g = 27%
5th fork (top) 117 to 92 = 21%

Yes agreed amazing stuff and good to see - you must have a fairly decent setup to drill all this, I have been struggling with an old pillar drill for a while now but a lathe would be lovely!  What machinery do you use for bits like this?
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« Reply #358 on: May 27, 2010, 14:26:06 pm »

Bruce,

As Phil suggests I too love the quality of your work.

I can confess to my gear selector forks having holes in them as well, but not as many as yours (mine have been fine by the way).

I've also been rather extravagant with the framehorn bolts and made them in Titanium, but you will be pleased to hear, in the time honoured fashion they have blind holes in them and a taper to the head of the bolt much like yours. Sad but true!

I too have a 5 speed to build (the box I refer to above is a 4 speed) and interestingly I was thinking along the same lines that it would be good to get to the same weight as a stock 4 speed, so I hope you make it. 

Keep up the good work, and keep the pictures coming.   

Peter
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« Reply #359 on: May 30, 2010, 19:20:14 pm »

Frame horn bolts : 262g/pr.
modified : 204g/pr
22% less.

Pulley bolt : 99g, modified : 69g
30% less.
Peter gave me another idea.

Frame horn bolts, now 192g/pr.  = 27% less
Pulley bolt, now 58g.  =  41% less
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